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Stewardship & Sustainability Series
Episode 19 - Brigitte Mars & the Power of Herbal Medicine


Brigitte Mars, master herbalist, author, and educator, discusses the power of herbal medicine to improve our health, well-being, mental clarity, and immunity. Having taught at The Mayo Clinic, the School of Health Mastery in Iceland, Naropa University, Omega Institute, Kripalu, Sivananda Yoga Ashram, and Esalen, Brigitte is the author of 17 books, including: “Beauty by Nature,” “Addiction Free Naturally,” “The Sexual Herbal,” The Home Reference to Holistic Health and Healing,” and “The Natural First Aid Handbook.” In this episode, Brigitte discusses the ways in which herbal medicine is an essential part of leadership, top-tier performance, parenting and a higher quality of life, and why common “weeds” like dandelion are so important for our own health and the health of the pollinators and ecosystems generally. Get special discounts at yonearth.org using the code: BrigitteMars -and- get her books at BrigitteMars.com!


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Hi friends, welcome to another edition of the YonEarth Communities Stewardship and

Sustainability Podcast Series.

I’m here with Brigitte Mars.

Hi Brigitte.

Hi, wonderful to be here.

And it is such a joy to have this opportunity to visit with you today, Brigitte.

Brigitte is a teacher of herbal medicine and natural healing using the power of plants

and has taught students all over the world.

She has also written several books, is it 14 books at this point, including the home reference

to holistic health and healing, the natural first aid handbook, the country almanac of

home remedies, the desktop guide to herbal medicine, beauty by nature, addiction free

naturally which is an amazing resource, the sexual herbal, also an amazing resource, healing

herbal teas, rossum, I mean it goes on and on Brigitte and these are such a rich

set of resources, treasures really for us to learn from and I want to ask you something

about the books in just a minute, but let me just finish by saying that you teach at Naropa

University, the School of Health, Mastery in Iceland, you’ve taught at the Omega Institute,

Esalon and the Myoclinic and Brigitte of course you’re also a mother and a grandmother

and it is such a joy and pleasure to be with you today, thanks so much for being on our show.

It’s my pleasure and honor, thank you.

So I want to maybe start by asking, how did this all get started for you?

I know that you’ve written all these books, you’ve taught so many hundreds thousands of people,

how did your connection with herbal medicine begin?

Well I was really blessed to have this French Canadian grandmother and she was very knowledgeable

about the ways of healing with plants and I would go visit her and it was almost like going

back a hundred years in time because she had a root cellar and she made soap and a big cauldron

in the in the yard and she had chickens in the yard and her idea of ice cream was to put maple

syrup which we made out in the forest with these lumberjacks and then we would pour it on snow

and that was like I’m glass A and so by the time I was in high school I knew that I wanted to

study more about herbal medicine. I did not like getting shots as a child and because I went to

camp every summer there was all these shots and it was very stressful to me and you know I felt

that the medicine that my grandmother was promoting things like garlic and cabbage and apple cider vinegar

I felt like this is medicine for the people and my parents would like why do you want to do these

old wives’ tails that’s something poor people did in the old country and I felt like yeah but it

works and it’s good for the planet because every time we decide to use a natural medicine somewhere

on the planet there’s going to be a field of cabbage or lavender or a canesia rather than a

you know pharmaceutical company pumping smoke into the environment not to say that those things

can’t be life-saving but when I was in high school every time I had a paper to do I would turn it

into an opportunity to learn about herbs so if it was you know Spanish I would write about that

Plantas medicinales de Mexico or herbal medicine during the French Revolution and so

and then I actually treated all my classmates rather than them going to the nurse I had this drawer

of you know rescue remedy and chamomile tea and I was just a kid but I was experimenting on my friends

and it worked of walking pharmacopia I love it and you know this is something that has been used

by millions of people for thousands of years so when someone tries to say like oh herbal medicine

hasn’t really been tested right it’s been tested a lot longer than a two-year rat study

yes in my book no doubt about that for countless generations and you know one of the things that

strikes me that I discussed a bit in the book yonearth toward the beginning actually is that

we don’t have to go back very many generations regardless of who we are and where we happen

to be living on the planet we don’t have to go back very many generations to find that in all

of our ancestors all of us shared all of humanity is a background in a past where we use herbal

medicine that was normal for so many hundreds and thousands of years it is only in the last two or

three generations where it is abnormal where we have this aberration where for many people it’s

like herbal medicine oh what’s that new fat or what’s that strange fringe thing but in fact this

is the norm right there’s nothing new age about it it is ancient and in 1900 about 80 percent

of all the pharmaceuticals were derived from plants we had willow bark that came from meadow sweet

and aspen and we had birth control pills that were derived from wild yam even digitalis comes from

the plant fox glove which is toxic to use as a plant but in 1917 there was a movement where they

sent one man the flexner mr flexner they sent him around to all the medical schools in the

country and he was supposed to make a deal with the medical schools that if they would only teach

the new modern medicine they would get funding and if they persisted in teaching about herbs and

homeopathy they wouldn’t get funding so in a few years herbal medicine really died on the vine

unless it was you know still being used by tribes or people that lived very close to the earth

certain religious groups but in europe the herbs never got taken off the shelf they’ve always

co-existed and i feel we’re blessed because if you were in an accident you know the modern care

that the hospital can afford you is great and i feel that the best of medicine is yet to come when

we honor the natural remedies and put our heads and hearts together to also offer what technology

is offering us absolutely yeah that’s such a beautiful beautiful vision you know one of the things

that i love sharing because like you i’m busy working on new writing projects giving talks

consulting and i have found that in order to maintain a good level of sustained energy health

and well-being for myself it’s essential that i utilize some of the herbal medicines that are

available and i thought i’d bring some Brigitte for us to share together so this is a teazon

i made last night and it has some beautiful organic and even biodynamic herbs including

calendula licorice root peppermint nettles and some equisitum some of these were even grown at our

friends biodynamic farm sustainable settings up in the Rocky Mountains and i thought it would be

fun for us to have a little while we’re talking today that sounds wonderful and those are all

really great herbs so i love it you know when we’re imbibing herbal teas the plants transform the

minerals of the earth into a way that we can readily assimilate them so my friend my friend

to your health blessed be blessed be

yum oh it’s wonderful licorice makes things just a little bit sweet yes

and one of the things i love about the licorice is because when i’m you know giving talks or what

have you my throat can get raspy and the licorice helps to soothe that a bit right great anti-inflammatory

agent yeah well let’s talk maybe a little more about the nettles right because i know that you

have a few favorites in this whole pharmacopia and i have heard you say more than once that nettles

is one of those favorites so why is that well nettles well Rudolph Steiner said about nettles

nettles are the heart of the world that’s a big statement coming from a pioneer such as Rudolph

Steiner and the belief and observation is that when plants that have a lot of essential oils

grown near nettles their essential oil content is higher so plants like oregano and time and peppermint

but what i love about nettles is that it’s so mineral rich really high in iron high in protein high

in calcium magnesium it even contains the amino acid lysine which is hard to get from vegetable foods

but has anti herpatic properties um a german woman gave me one nettle plant maybe 30 years ago

and i moved with it and now there’s 10,000 nettle plants there and it provides constant food

for us from March until maybe December and you know you might have heard of stinging nettles and

this is the same plant or took a diawica um it does sting if you touch it but the getting

stunned with it is actually very therapeutic for arthritis and pain soar joints for you know people

that use their hands a lot of the computer playing instruments so the getting stung is actually

very therapeutic and it’s like a free remedy um but i love nettles because it’s very blood building

there was a study done in Portland where they found that it’s very effective at alleviating

the symptoms of hay fever the runny eyes the itchy runny nose and so forth um and i love that

the minerals in it can nourish our hair our teeth our bones it’s very alkalonizing and it’s

edible so yeah you know you can uh you know i’m big on adding greens to everything so if i

were making gluten-free pancakes i would blend nettles up in it and my grandkids get to have

super hero pancakes that are green um if you’re making muffins if you’re making uh scrambled eggs

you could make green eggs no ham uh-huh that would make dr. sus proud um so whatever you are making

fortified by adding more greens and i think the american diet has gotten rather beige so

you know eat the rainbow eat all the colors is always a good idea one of the keys to health and

well-being eating the rainbow that all the different colors of fruits and vegetables i just want

to repeat that reiterate that because it’s such an easy thing we can all do more of in our own

lives right at our fingertips right this doesn’t take a massive lifestyle change and you know a lot

of parents find it challenging to get their kids to eat healthfully so you know go shopping with your

kids and in the produce section mind you and then say you need to pick out three red foods you’re

willing to eat and three orange foods and so forth because you know kids can relate to colors but

hey if kids can do it we can do it absolutely that’s cool so you’re giving them the choice it’s sort

of like a new version of a kid in a candy shop right yeah a lot of fun well you know when i’m

working with executives organizational leaders what i hear over and over is that they are doing

things to enhance their level of performance to really be at that that top level that a game

as consistently as possible and it it strikes me that oh my goodness what an incredible

opportunity we have to utilize herbal medicines in our lives to sustain that level of performance

and energy creativity leadership that so many of us are frankly spending all kinds of money to

try to cultivate in other ways and i’m just struck especially with the nettles patch outside

of your home some of this is not only so simple to incorporate in our lives but it is so delightful

well there’s a whole classification of plants that are called adaptogens they help the body adapt

and they can help the body adapt to stress they might help you sleep if you need to sleep but they

might also give you more energy if you need more energy and i’m finding a lot of high level professional

people getting great benefits from using adaptogenic herbs like rodeola or eluthro which used to be

called Siberian jinsing also Chinese and American jinsing holy basil or talsi is another one shazander

berries and it’s interesting that a lot of these plants they adapt they grow very well under

difficult conditions i was teaching in Iceland and i saw by the side of a cliff rodeola growing and

the winds are whipping it and the sea foam is crashing upon it and it’s going to be really hard to

harvest this plant someone’s going to have to climb out on a ledge and i thought that’s why this plant

is so good for you because it survives the intense winds of Iceland the six months of almost total

darkness and then total light and these plants that adapt hold the secret to help our bodies adapt

it seems that the cultural norm has been you know just drink coffee for people that are you know

having a lot of work to do and you know coffee is an herb i don’t have anything to say against it

but it doesn’t provide us with the minerals that we get from some of these adaptogenic plants

and so i’d like people to mix it up a little bit and you know and i know coffee gives us energy

but it’s like taking money out of the bank account whereas i see these adaptogenic herbs like

rodeola and ilusro putting something in the bank account meaning our creativity and life force

and well-being it’s so beautiful well and i know that a lot of my friends out there are coffee

drinkers and i enjoy coffee myself but this is not an either or a kind of question this can be for

some of us a both end and so i really enjoy having some coffee as well as some of this adaptogenic

tea throughout the day and especially later in the day so that i’m not disrupting my sleep cycle

too terribly much with the caffeine and all of that i wanted to go back to a thing you mentioned

about the metals that it’s alkalizing and can you tell us a little more about that what that

means and why that’s so important well there have been a number of books written about how important

it is for our bodies to be more alkaline and you know how do you know if you’re more acid or alkaline

you can get these little paper strips that you test you can test your urine or your saliva

and what we do know is that most Americans eat a lot of food that promotes a condition of acidity

and being more acidic can make us feel more lethargic more depressed crave more addictive substances

like more alcohol more coffee more sugar and when we’re more alkaline which is going to occur when

we eat more green leafy vegetables and fresh fruits disease doesn’t really proliferate in that

type of condition so there’s all kinds of books and not every book agrees on what’s acid and alkaline

but in general we could say that sugar and dairy and meat and grains make us more acidic

and when we’re more acidic we’re just going to be more likely to get that cold that flu be one of

those people that gets cancer whereas if we’re more alkaline we’re going to regenerate and

feel brighter and more alive so it’s a real simple thing and of course it’s changes from day to day

you know if you test yourself and you’re more acid it could be that you had a big dessert last night

or you drank three cups of coffee instead of one so it does change from day to day but it also

gives you ideas on well how do I get back on track because so many medical tests they do change

from day to day so we have control and what I’m trying to do with herbal medicine is really

empower people to take more responsibility for their own health rather than yes it’s great that you

have a wonderful doctor I’m so happy for you but he’s not making food for you three meals a day

unless you’re married to him or her so it’s really up to you what can you do to make this easier and

so I like to empower people to be their their primary health care person and then everything

else’s secondary interciary and it’s such a beautiful way to put this I have recently been

sharing with folks that in a sense each one of us is a farmer and we each have a farm in the form

of our body where we’re growing all kinds of organisms and some of them are good for us some of

them not and I’ve heard that as we keep our bodies more alkaline it actually means that the

conditions the environments inside of us are not as favorable for some of those pathogens that

might make us sick well it’s interesting that Louis past year who’s who promoted pasteurization

where we have to heed everything to keep it sterile and you know constantly be using antimicrobial

agents at the end of his life he said the terrain is everything the terrain is everything the earth

so it’s not just about like well I shook someone’s hand and they had it cold because we’re always

exposed to pathogens all day long every time we get close to somebody shake hands hug and brace

share you know a cup pick up a pencil that someone else had and so rather than thinking oh it’s

the pathogens that must all be annihilated because it’s not possible there are good bacteria and

bad bacteria and so if we have a healthy strong terrain then we’re going to be able to

fight off the things that don’t serve us oh I love it well it turns out we’re talking about soil

again there you go all this it’s so important when you mentioned the leafy greens one of the things

that made me think of is is learning a while back in Brigitte I think I’ve may have first heard

this from you that the chlorophyll in green plants which is the molecule that allows the conversion

of sunlight into usable molecules that essentially feeds our biosphere that chlorophyll molecule

is identical to the hemoglobin molecule that is in our blood with one difference that at the hemoglobin

molecules center there is an iron atom and in the center of the chlorophyll molecule is a magnesium

atom oh my gosh it’s as if we’re in the same family that’s true and you could think of chlorophyll

as being like plant blood and we also know that chlorophyll which we’re going to find in everything

from kale to spinach to arugula to dandelion greens helps our bodies not only to be more alkaline

but also to better utilize oxygen and to help wound healing time and help us to be more resistant

to infection so even though I really think eat all the colors there’s something especially

medicinal about the green plants and you know all of the we also know that the green plants of

our planet are also providing oxygen for us to breathe and that’s why you know I feel so strongly

that we should all be growing something rather than just having a rock yard you know plant

something to help oxygenate our cities because this is where we really need it absolutely well

speaking of the cities it seems to me that if we’re going to get more and more focused on this idea

of having space colonies or living on the moon or on Mars or something like that I know this is a

discussion emerging more and more it strikes me that by golly if we’re going to be terraforming

some of these utterly hostile environments why don’t we practice and terraform the cities we’ve

got now because they are actually pretty harsh environments also and it’s basically going to boil

down to soil and growing these plants whether we’re in a high rise apartment or a suburban

home with a yard we could be growing all manner of medicinal herbs couldn’t we?

Absolutely I have an article that was on Huffington Post and it’s now online it’s called Get

Off Your Grass and Create an Edible Lawn and you know the idea that we are spending a third of

our nation’s water supply to water grass which is a crop that most humans don’t eat maybe your pet

goat does but you know how many of us have a pet goat in the yard I don’t think too many

but we’re wasting our water and we can’t continue to to disrespect water

right especially the way the population has increased and what if that same amount of water or even

a fraction of that amount of water was used to grow things like chickweed and dandelion and malva

and personally which was Gandhi’s favorite food so there’s been this American thought that like

weeds are the enemy and you’re not a good citizen if you have dandelions in your yard and yet

dandelions help aerate the soil the leaves are edible the flowers are high in luteine which benefits

our eyes farmers have long said that where the dandelions grow that’s a great place to put the garden

so we need to change our thinking that spring herbicides is an American way of life because

that is bad even if you think you’re only spraying your yard the rain the winds it ends up migrating

it ends up killing the bees and the bees pollinate I’ve heard like three out of every four bites of

food we eat millions of dollars worth every year and so we cannot continue this practice and we

know that there’s some really you know maybe we thought this was a good idea I mean I grew up

during the better living through chemistry slogan but we’re needing to rethink that and you know

anything with the words side in it herbicide pesticide we do not need to be spraying that in our

yard where our children play our pets cohort and and to rethink the way we look at the weeds because

I made breakfast this morning and everything that was in our breakfast was growing five minutes

before we were eating it I harvested kale and what was left of the dandelion greens and the

vitality you feel for meeting things that are so fresh they were just growing you can’t buy that

at the store right and I really think we’ve been bamboozles you know everything we buy and eat

it’s gonna have a bar code and a sticker on it and so I’m really advocating like what can you plant

what can you grow we can all grow something that’s so beautiful so beautiful so maybe we’ll we’ll

start planting the seeds for a a no-code movement around some of these things that we’re eating

you know I remember hearing recently that in some of our ancient traditions we actually have

awareness of the degree of life force in food called prana for example and the fact that you’re

often eating plants that were just growing a few minutes prior means that there is a much higher

level of prana in life force which is driving our health and well-being isn’t it it’s so true

and if you think about it how many people are buying iceberg lettuce that’s trucked in from another

country or another state although in the winter it might be trucked in from another continent

and how long ago was that plant in the ground and so I’ve heard bringing iceberg lettuce from

California is a very expensive way to ship water right and so you know again the darker chlorophyll

is going to indicate even more minerals so if you’re eating some kind of white green rather than

like something dark and rich you’re you’re missing out and we just it’s just a shift in consciousness

in this we’re all helping that and we’re all here for you to help you shift and we just need to

reeducate our neighbors but when you see those pesticides applied sign like that that cannot be

the good neighbor the future it’s not and housing associations and homeowners associations they

need to change their strategies because anything that’s contributing to the destruction of our bees

and our soil and our water and our air that’s not for the benefit of humankind absolutely

and Brigitte just to that end and on that note I want to mention for our viewers and audience

that with respect to engaging in these practices for greater stewardship sustainability health

and well-being there are incredible resources available including the 14 books that Brigitte has

written and you can find those at BrigitteMars.com it’s b-r-i-g-i-t-t-e-m-a-r-s.com

and I’ll just drop a little something in there for the esotericists out there you might be

interested to note that the plant nettles according to Rudolph Steiner had an affiliation with the

planet Mars and you’ll see on the tree of life the Kabbalah some very interesting things to check

out there if you are so inclined. I also want to mention that if you would like to you can use

the code podcast to get discounts on the audiobook and ebook resources at yhonner.org slash market

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nifty goodies so we want to make sure you know about that and I just want to come back now to

the dandelion for another moment because one of the things that in all these different

plants growing in our neighborhoods maybe in our yards that some of us might have been

applying pesticides to dandelion in particular is an essential early spring food for the honeybees

and they are so essential to our ecosystem tell us a little more about that and taking care of

honeybees and dandelions and all of that well the dandelions were deliberately brought here

by the pioneers they planted them because dandelions are one of the top five most nutritious

vegetables and the pioneers put fences around the dandelions you know just like with everything

else to keep the deer and the rabbit and other creatures out because that was a food plant and

dandelion leaves are edible in the Jewish tradition they were originally one of the bitter herbs

of Passover the dandelion stems you can boil like noodles the flowers are edible I’ve made dandelion

smoothies dandelion loaf I have a whole e-book out called dandelion medicine so I’m going to

maybe mention that check that out and dandelion root is also edible and it helps to detoxify the

liver it’s good for skin ailments so how did this plant ever get so maligned like it’s such a great

plant and again I think it’s a lot of marketing that we’re being sold a bill that says you know

you need to get these chemicals and have this antiseptic pea green lawn I feel like it’s an

oppression of the wild and the feminine yes we need to control and dominate nature and keep

giving her like a crew cut all the time and that sells more gasoline doesn’t it

billions of gallons of gasoline per year to mow lawns and and it’s really toxic it smells bad like

here you are trying to sleep in maybe a little bit Sunday morning and seven o’clock you know

so maybe we should think about how we do our lawns but the dandelion is so useful

you can roast the root and it tastes a lot like coffee it’s a great herb medicinally it’s as I

said it’s also alkalinating like the nettles are and this whole idea that dandelions somehow

indicate that you’re a low-class citizen or something I think that really came from a sort of

prejudice against foreigners you know like hey it’s American American shop at the store and they

buy new modern food boiling a bag kind of vegetables and prepackaged food so it’s you know again

we’re all doing our best and we’re all very influenced by the median that’s why it’s so important

to do a show like this to really say the dandelions are not the enemy maybe we really need to think

about these chemicals that are poisoning our planet but dandelions are so useful and not only to

humans but for the soil because they aerate the soil they make nutrients more available for

other plants and you know we were talking about plants that adapt the dandelion adapts it survives

people walking on it it survives dogs peeing on it it can grow through the cracks in the sidewalks

it it grows before the snows are even you know complete it can survive all kinds of adversity they

tried to kill it tried to kill it it keeps shape shifting ever so little you mow it down and it

just goes back shorter next season so talk about adaptogens they don’t have to come from

Siberia or Iceland we’ve got adaptogens saying use me use me lots I’m right here you know and I

feel like the dandelion really is a symbol of this realigning with nature and becoming a partner

with nature and all those seeds that proliferate I mean this plant it’s doing great things and I

think a lawn with dandelions in it is so much more interesting for our kids to play and you could

make a wish and blow those little seeds around and yeah it’s delightful that way and it strikes me

that these plants dandelion are so resilient persistent intelligent adaptable reminds me a lot of

our species and in a sense connecting with the dandelion for each of us is an opportunity to

connect back more with our own heritages and the longer versions of our human story on the planet

that sounds like to me a lot of fun and you know the the French called dandelion peace on Lee which

means pee in the bed because dandelion is a diuretic and it’s as effective a diuretic as one of

the leading diuretic drugs well why aren’t the studies being done on dandelion and another thing

about those leading drugs is they deplete your body of potassium so a good doctor will say here’s

this drug now go get some potassium but dandelions give you potassium but who’s going to you know

release dandelion is a drug when they’ve got us buying chemicals to eradicate them it’s a bit

nefarious in my opinion so we just need to come on everybody wake up we’re here to help

yeah and the nature nature is like offering you something free that’s going to help you adapt

yeah well I just believe and and and so overjoyed every day that we live on this miraculous planet

Brigitte and there’s there’s no accident that we refer to this planet as a mother mother earth

Gaia in traditions all over the world and speaking of the relationship with the feminine and with

nature there’s another very special plant that I’ve heard you speak about before which is the

hemp plant the canning bosom and I’ve heard you talk about this plant as the great mother

this is a plant that has extraordinary healing properties for ourselves for the landscapes and

ecosystems and it’s amazing to watch right now that this plant is suddenly transforming back into

a central part of our way of being here in this culture that change is happening and so good

by golly it’s something we need to see more and more of and Brigitte why is this hemp plant

one of your favorites well I’m always looking for plants that can help the planet and when I think

about hemp here’s a plant that we could be making fuel out of that’s renewable rather than fracking

our neighborhoods that one really makes me mad we could be making fabric out of hemp right now one

of the most pesticide crops on the face of the earth is cotton and since it’s not a food crop

there’s no restrictions on how many sprays can be used on it so most cotton is really toxic and

really creating a toxic condition for the soil very often peanuts are crop rotated with cotton

which makes peanuts somewhat questionable too in their safety if they’re not organic

we also know that hemp could be used to make homes and make fireproof homes that are breathable

so that’s another product we are cutting down old growth forests to make newspapers

trees that take you know decades to grow whereas hemp were used in three to four months three to

four months three to four months okay and not to mention that hemp seed provides a food it’s the

second highest source of vegetable protein next to soybeans but it’s much easier to digest

so we could be using hemp seed to make hemp milk and a protein protein powder we could be using

it as a nut in seed and not to mention all of the medicinal properties that are being found and

have long been known as medicine that many of the components in hemp whether it be CBD, THC

and so on and so forth have been used to compings like anxiety and help sleep reduce inflammation

and so this plant has really been persecuted and prosecuted for many years and yet this is

a plant that can solve many many of the problems on our planet and I’m not saying that everybody needs

to smoke cannabis but we know that Henry Ford built a car out of hemp and it was fueled on hemp

and it’s stronger than steel it can resist impact more than steel think of how many minerals

were extracting from the earth when it could all be done above ground with a minimal amount of

pollution so when I think of a plant that could really save the world I’m going to say hemp can

save the world and it’s also interesting that we actually have a system in our bodies called the

endocannabinoid system that somehow our bodies seem to have evolved with this plant and you know as

you mentioned in the Bible they talk about the holding anointing oil that is mentioned in the

Old Testament that it was made from olive oil cinnamon, mer and cany bosom and in translation,

a Greek translation in the septugiate I hope I pronounced that right in the 3rd century BC they

translated the cany bosom to be calimus a chorus calimus which is probably not the plant that was

used in the holy anointing oil it doesn’t have the same medicinal benefits and the Bible also refers

to cany as a fiber plant and calimus is not a fiber plant so there’s a lot of scholars,

botanists, rabbis you know priests who are saying hey it’s not a chorus calimus so that’s a huge

misstep and yet even though the cannabis plant is legal in many states it’s still in prison in the

sense there’s this female plants that are being grown indoors with electricity and floridated water

and so I really feel to move into this age of regeneration and healing the planet that we’re

going to have to free the plant and let it grow outdoors with sunlight and wind and I know that’s

going to really shape shift the economy but what if there was free food and fiber growing everywhere

for people and one other thing about hemp that you often don’t hear about is it grows very tall

and it produces seeds that the birds could be eating in the winter which encourages the birds

to nest nearby and then the birds help you by eating more insects in the warmer months so it

really is a plant that could help not to mention that the leaves provide fertilizer that it is one

of the most ancient fiber crops that grows as tall as a tree in one season it’s pretty remarkable

and again I realize that we’re turning it into a drug and I don’t know if that’s really that’s

a whole another discussion but when I think of all the environmental concerns that we have

here there’s one plant that could do so many things it’s interesting I’m hearing more and more

commercial farmers are now incorporating hemp into their production cycles because it is actually

helping their economics and allowing them to get away from a lot of the chemical inputs that

they’ve been using and we’re hearing more and more farmers farmers growing 20, 30,000 acres of

things like wheat and hay out in places like Utah who are now making the switch back to organic

because of course organics not a fad right this is what we’ve been doing for hundreds and thousands

of years it’s only the last couple generations we’ve been conducting this experiment and so many

of these conventional farmers several of them are fifth sixth generation are converting back to

organic and incorporating hemp into their production cycles and it’s doing amazing things for

their viability as small family businesses and you know even here in the state of Colorado where we

legalize cannabis a few years ago it is good for the economy it’s bringing not only tourism but

there’s many places people that are employed in this industry and you know there’s a there’s a lot

of good there’s a lot of creativity going on and but I’m always into education about plants and I’m

certainly not condoning being abusive with anything I think with every plant we need to learn

what its functions are when it’s appropriate to use it I certainly wouldn’t use golden seedle every

day yeah well speaking of abusing plants you know I’ve shared that I’m I’m part Native American

Mohawk Indian and of course tobacco is this incredibly sacred plant to many of the quote-unquote

new world tribal peoples and I was addicted to tobacco smoking cigarettes for many many years I

started as a teenager as a lot of people do and then it was about 12 or so years ago that I

finally quit and Brigitte I’m just I’m really curious I think more and more of us are waking up

to the role of addiction in our lives and what we can do proactively to overcome some of those

patterns and what what are some of the essential insights and even recommendations that you make

in your book that deals with addiction if you if you could share with us about that surely well

I wrote a book called addiction free naturally because I think very often in our quest to get well

if we don’t address the things like we’re drinking too much coffee eating too much sugar still

smoking still drinking you maybe even a prescription drug we could be undermining our health and all

the supplements and herbs and yoga is not going to help us to achieve balance so one thing I think

would be very helpful is to bring back the art of doing handicrafts with our hands if we were

to go back to our ancestry you know the men and women were doing things with wood and metal with

fiber with fabric maybe the women were inside making a quilt or knitting socks and the men were

out on the porch making you know knife handles or cradle boards or or something rocking chairs

or something like that and so it seems like we let go of doing things with our hands and

making things with your hands is good for your self esteem and you create things of beauty that

have lasting value I mean if I make a quilt for my children it’s not going to end up in a yard

sale that’s like an heirloom and it’s made with you know mama love or pop a love and I and

sketching could be a craft playing an instrument rather than just listening to music like doing

something with our hands and we also know that we need to find other ways to reward ourself

so rather than thinking oh I was really good today I deserve a drink or I deserve a smoke

and again I know the tobacco can be used in ceremony and celebration in a in a sacred way

I use it I was a tobacco smoker myself for years that what are other ways to reward ourself

maybe reading a novel reading a magazine calling a friend on the telephone yeah maybe going

for a walk um you know doing yoga spending time in the garden so it’s so those are just a few

things but we also know that being more alkaline and eating those green leafy vegetables can make

us more you know able to stay on track and not over indulge in anything that undermines our health

I love it it’s um there are so many pathways to enhanced health and well-being and on the

topic of making things with our hands you know of course Gandhi really emphasized this notion

of Swadeshi how important it is for us to be able to make things in our own homes in our own

communities and I’m struck that our word man new facture comes from the Latin monos for hand

and facto to make so manufacture means to make by hand and uh or at least that’s the origin

the etymology of our word um and I’m struck that one of the as you were describing this one of the

things I love making by hand as you know are these um hemp infused bathing salts that I’ve been

making to share with people love them waylay waters and we actually I started doing this about a

year ago in part because of the classes I was taking from you Brigitte and I was creating these

different aroma therapy blends with a hemp infused base organic coconut oil I was sharing them

with friends and family and then suddenly I was hearing from people hey can I get some more that

it helped with my back or with my arthritis or I’ve been able to cut back on my sleeping medication

my goodness and uh realized um we were uh talking with Artem and uh realized my gosh this might be

a little cottage industry thing we could do uh to help support the work at the Y on earth community

and so for me to be able to sit there for a few hours and make a batch the level of joy and peace

and really tranquility I feel during and after that process is remarkable and it’s like

what a gift and here here we’re just making things to share with people um I I don’t know

Brigitte I think you’ve hit on something there that could be a whole another uh topic of discussion

even perhaps in addition to what we might do with our relationship with plants and herbal medicine

in terms of helping heal our planet and ourselves this uh working with our hands seems really important

it’s so simple and I also think that not working with our hands is another contributing factor to

losing our mental faculties because there’s a big connection between the hands and the brains so

it’s also a great stress relieving technique but we also know that um many people that have

addictive tendencies have blood sugar issues and eating things like drinking lots of fruit juice

and eating whiteflower products and sugar can also make us be in that loop of uh stimulate

sedate stimulate sedate so using herbs like cinnamon and fennel and anus and there’s a lot of

things that we can do to help addiction rather than just you know only use willpower yes yes

yeah that’s so important Brigitte I am so uh humbled and overjoyed to have this time with you

and I know you have been teaching hundreds thousands of people uh in our community around here

and all around the world and uh you are in my humble opinion a living treasure oh thank you so

much and I so appreciate what you do and I love wellay waters they are amazing so yes we have

them at our house and they make a big difference that’s wonderful there is a if you want

wellaywaters.com there is a free download soaking ceremony guide check it out you’ll have fun

you’ll feel good and that’s another way to reward yourself it is you know rather than you you

deserve a break today well an aromatherapy bath with these wonderful salts brilliant yeah well I

just Brigitte I want to thank you for being with us today I really encourage all of you out there

audience to check out BrigitteMars.com an incredible wealth of resources are there waiting for you

and remember to use the code Brigitte Mars if you would like to get some discounts on some of the

products we’re offering through yunners.org and again it’s b-r-i-g-i-t-t-e-m-a-r-s like the planet

and uh blessings thank you so much Brigitte thank you Aaron cameraman Ardom many blessings to you

all right we can do this let’s make the world a better place uh-oh

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