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Vera Herbals is a boutique spagyrics and herbal alchemy purveyor, founded by Nicole Wallace and Tyler Bell, based in Carbondale, Colorado. Providing a wide array of medicinal hemp, mushroom, and herbal remedies, Vera Herbals uses advanced extraction and alchemical equipment to make high-potency salves, tinctures, spagyrics, and other healthful decoctions, without the use of any harmful solvents or other artificial ingredients. Vera Herbals works in partnership with several biodynamic, organic, and regenerative farms to source its ingredients, and collaborates with a handful of select boutique companies, including Wele Waters. Now, in a “vera” special collaboration with the Y on Earth Community, you can enjoy a 10% discount on Vera Herbals products using the link: veraherbals.com/partnerships/y-on-earth, and a portion of the proceeds will be donated to support the Y on Earth Community’s regeneration, kindness, stewardship, wellness and sustainability mission.
In this unique episode, you’ll learn directly from Tyler and Nicole how the ancient arts of alchemy and spagyrics are being revived within the context of modern equipment and scientific knowledge. You’ll also hear about the essential connection with sacred geometry (found in cultures and traditions all around the world), including the Flower of Life, Metatron’s Cube, and the Merkabah. Learn about the “spirit,” “soul,” and “body” of plant tinctures, including the “salts” of the plants, and how a multi-step process transforms and recombines those different properties into transformed and transmuted herbal and mushroom-based remedies.
Nicole Wallace is co-founder of Vera Herbals and Arts of Ascension. She also teaches yoga, meditation and manifestation. Her passion for helping people live more in harmony with themselves, each other, and the planet is what has led her to using many modalities to do exactly that! She strives everyday to grow into her fullest authentic version of herself.
Tyler Bell is also co-founder of Vera Herbals and Arts of Ascension. He has a background in chemistry, alchemy, and is an intuitive healer. Tyler is the head of formulations at Vera Herbals and applies an alchemical approach to creating herbal remedies. He works one on one with every person possible, spiritually and energetically, to assist in raising their vibration with the vision of a Planet Earth that operates in its entirety from a place of love and respect for all of existence.
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Welcome to the YonEarth Community Podcast. Today we’re visiting with Nicole Wallace and Tyler Bell at Vera Herbals. Hey guys. Hey.
So great to be here with you and we’re behind the front part of the shop in the back where all the magic happens, huh?
This is a Spajurix Alchemy and herbal medicine lab.
So really excited about today’s episode because we’re going to be talking about different methods for making herbal medicines.
And we’re going to share toward the end of the episode with you guys a whole bunch of the Vera Herbals products which are in the front of the shop and we’ll look at the displays a little later.
And we’re also going to show you some of the amazing equipment here that might look like medieval alchemical equipment sort of upgraded into the 21st century.
So really excited about that and excited we have this opportunity to visit together.
Let me tell you that Tyler is co-founder of Vera Herbals and co-founder of the Arts of Ascension.
He has a background in chemistry, alchemy and is an intuitive healer.
He is the head of formulations at Vera Herbals and applies an alchemical approach to creating herbal remedies.
He works one on one with people spiritually and energetically to assist every person possible in raising their vibration with the vision of a planet earth that operates in its entirety from a place of love and respect for all of existence.
I like that. That’s a lot. He said that very nicely.
It’s important work. Nicole is also co-founder of Vera Herbals and the Arts of Ascension.
And she in addition to her work here also teaches yoga, meditation and manifestation.
Her passions for helping people live more in harmony with themselves, each other and the planet is what has led her to using many modalities to do exactly that.
She strives every day to grow into her fullest authentic version of herself.
So this is one of the reasons I’m so excited to be visiting with you guys today and to be able to share this conversation with our friends and audience through the wider community.
Yeah, we’re talking about plants and plant medicine and herbal medicine, but we’re also talking about some energetics and some of the subtler information, if you will, and love if we want to use that term, which I think we do, that goes into these healing products.
And I love behind us that we’ve got an image of the flower of life, one of the most prominent sacred geometry images found all around the world from all kinds of cultures and all kinds of time periods.
And it’s a real joy to have this opportunity to visit with you guys, sort of behind the scenes in the lab.
So thanks for having us and I want to ask first to start off, how did you guys connect and start doing this work together?
How do we originally connect at a electric music concert in Tallahassee, Florida, standing at the side by side?
Oh my gosh. This is one of those it was meant to be kind of things. Definitely.
It’s something we attracted each other for a reason.
And so that’s what we first met, and then when I was in Florida, because I broke my back, I had a back surgery, and then got addicted to pain pills for four years taking oxycons and delaudes, hands down the most important and best thing that ever happened to me in my entire life.
I quit doing that stuff, and that’s where we started making, at the time we were making, extracting marijuana in Florida, behind the, on the down low, and making different products to help my back pain, opposed to taking pharmaceuticals.
So that was in part the way you were able to get over an addiction to the opioids essentially?
It definitely helped me get over it, and it definitely helped me with the pain, and that kind of year after getting off them, when my body was kind of healing.
And so for the pain, for definitely help with the mental stuff, and you can’t do that stuff in Florida, and so I got arrested for a little bit of marijuana, went to jail for three months, and I never been in trouble for anything else in my whole life.
It was a wonderful experience, and then we moved to Colorado, and started learning a lot more, and then all evolved.
And so where did you guys meet in the course of that timeline?
It was after all that, maybe, and then you had moved away, right, and had moved back, so maybe like two years after you’ve gotten, or year after?
Well, I got off the pills, I went to Seattle, and Seattle was where I started realizing that even without the drugs, I still hated myself, and I didn’t know why.
So that was where I started wanting to know how I let it get that far, because I was not taking them for my pain, and what inside of me was my life the way it was.
And so that was where I first started understanding that my mind shaped my entire reality, my way of thinking, my self-conscious.
And so that’s where I started understanding the energetic, because I never was taught any of the energy side of things.
And I started realizing that I could change my reality based off changing my inside, and then that kind of started the whole energy side, and I moved back to Florida, and then met her, and it was still using cannabis to help my pain at that time.
And then I went to jail for it, and then we chose together a few months later that we had to go somewhere where we could go learn more about that plant.
And then that went into an obsession with mushrooms, and medicinal herbs, and all this, as we kept learning the energetic side.
And to answer your question, I met him before he went to jail for the marijuana, and then, like he said, we ended up looking.
That was maybe two years before we met two years before we moved out to Colorado.
And we just kind of started to realize that the other parts of the plant, the THG, have so many medicinal properties.
And I made the first staff in our kitchen, this old liquidy, and not the right consistency, and made like two more staffs, and then like six staffs, and finding, you know, how to write, and then what’s in there?
Yeah, and so I love that experimentation with plants and saves, and some I’ve been playing with for many years as well.
What you guys are doing is obviously at the whole other level, but there’s a certain joy, right, and just kind of tinkering in the kitchen and making products that way.
And I think it’s, I don’t know, for me it’s good for my patients, and like mental ability to not, you know, be okay with nothing for the first time.
You know, what you’re speaking to, and Tyler, what you’ve already shared in the first few minutes of this episode together, is to be so potent because it really speaks to the need and the opportunities.
We all have in different ways, and we have throughout society, to recognize when something is not healthy, and to work to change it, or to recognize when something is not working well, and to change it.
And I think one of the things that’s absolutely inspiring to me as your friend, is the degree to which you have created change in your life.
And now the degree to which you guys are helping a lot of other people create substantial changes in their lives, in part working with the various plant medicines.
And we know that in our society right now, there’s a whole lot of dysfunction, there’s a whole lot of disease, and a whole lot is coming from our mental pathos, if we want to call it that.
And so a big part of your message and sharing seems to come from what’s going on on the inside in our minds and spiritual lives, huh?
Yeah, yeah, I guess since this is my first time ever being on a camera, I should mention that I was shooting up the lauded in heroin, and not just taking pain pills.
And when from a person who was violent, angry, hated myself, wanted to die every day, to a person that is in complete love with every single being on this planet that plants the animals, I live every day to the fullest, loving myself unconditionally, and with nothing but love surrounding.
And my life couldn’t be more perfect.
So, you guys can do it too.
Yeah, thanks for sharing that tonic.
Yeah, we can stop the episode right there.
I don’t know how important it is.
I mean, it really is.
And, you know, we have some of our friends and colleagues in the wider community are doing incredibly courageous and grave work in healing, in communities healing various traumas,
addictions, and so on.
And I think a big part of the energetic tones we can set forth into our communities is acknowledging where we’ve come from, acknowledging some of the pains and the real struggles, and the incredibly low and dark places that we’ve been in the past.
So, to be able to share the story to where you are now is really tremendous.
So, I’m thinking you, and on behalf of the community, thank you for sharing the story publicly.
Yeah, absolutely. The darker it goes, that’s how much more you can shine your light.
Yeah, amen.
So, you’re Nicole also working in other healing modalities, and a lot of it is somatic, right, is working in the physical.
What are you doing out there when you’re not here in the lab and in the shop, and how are they integrated?
Yeah, so I taught a yoga just classes for the last three years, and I think even when I, well, my first yoga class I ever took, I knew I was going to teach.
I came out of the class, so I’m teaching this, and I think it took me three years or something, and then I got my certification.
And so I did that, but I was always very interested actually in the breathwork part and the meditation part.
I think that the physical body is where a lot of us are at, and it’s a beautiful gateway to get to some of the more deeper things.
And then when you can combine especially breathwork into the physical practice, and of course, before meditation or just into your life in general, it’s so powerful and so transformative.
I think even way more than just the physical loan.
So I have very recently actually just led into doing one-on-ones only, and my focus is really on breathwork and meditation.
And I’ve kind of transformed that with other things I just have passions about, you know, taking some trainings here and there, and of course there’s this.
And to create just to help people live, like you said, more in harmony with themselves.
And I think that when we heal ourselves, we heal everything around us.
So it has an impact on our society, but also the earth.
And you know, I feel like alchemy does very much the same thing.
You know, we think of this physical tincture as this physical thing, but I think that’s one of the reasons that we were so drawn to Spigerics was, wow, you’re actually combining intention and things that maybe aren’t good.
Things that maybe aren’t tangible into a physical thing.
And to me, I think that’s what our world needs.
I think when we combine things that we can’t see with our eyes into the physical.
And I think that’s why I’ve always loved meditation with the physical practice.
That’s where you get a holistic approach.
So to me, they’re one and the same.
It is yoga.
It is yoga.
Yeah.
Beautiful.
I love how focusing on our awareness on breath is one of the most immediate ways we can connect with the plant kingdom.
Because we are literally breathing in what they breathe out.
And vice versa.
And it creates this reciprocity, I think, this relationship that is so essential to being human on planet Earth.
And we call it the people of the plant.
I’ve never thought of it that way.
Awesome.
Yeah.
Well, in this bit about the intention and consciousness, right, we’re going to throw down, by the way, we’ll define Spigerics where you don’t worry.
A few years ago, I hadn’t heard the term.
But we’re thrown down a few terms here that for some of us can be a bit of a stretch, you know, at the least.
And maybe for others are really challenging.
However, what’s interesting to me about the time we’re living in is, you know, our science is now so advanced.
And most of us aren’t keeping up with the advances of the sciences if we’re not in particular disciplines ourselves.
And really, the science is now pointing at the intersection between the subatomic quantum realms and the realms of consciousness.
And that there really is, they’re also a reciprocity.
And so this isn’t just woo-woo, whatever.
We’re not even in Boulder, Colorado.
We’re in Carbondale, Colorado, Carbondale, near this beautiful mountain called Wimagua in the, in the euth, the old word for the mountain, meaning the sacred heart of the mountains, referring to the Rocky Mountain chain.
Which, if you want to look at it, is a spine of the planet that runs from Alaska to the southern tip of South America.
And my son, Hunter, who’s behind camera, this is I think his third podcast operating as cameraman, Hey Hunter.
How’s it going?
He and our head enough to do some ceremony up on the mountain tomorrow.
And it was a perfect opportunity to stop in and say hi to Tyler and Nicole and spend some time with them here today.
And so it’s really exciting to me, because in our work with the winers community, some of the times we’re speaking with scientists who are themselves having challenges with language and what’s accepted, especially in this country, right, where there’s been such a concerted effort to undermine science here for many years now.
In particular, around things like climate change. And however, we’re also talking about talking with indigenous elders who are very tuned into the spiritual into what’s happening with consciousness.
And so it’s a lot of fun, I think, for us to be able to kind of bridge across these different domains of knowledge and understanding and language.
And so, you know, please, if you’re having a feeling of being stuck or saying, no, I don’t buy any of that, look into some of the science.
Rupert Sheldraig’s been talking about some of this lately.
And I might even make a little note to myself to include a few resources that you might want to check out that will relate to some of these topics.
Of course, Frijoff Capra, the great physicist and author of the book, Doubt of Physics, back in the 1970s, is excellent to get into how these are converging in our understanding of that.
So I’m making a quick note on that.
Okay, so, okay, this word spigerics. What the heck is spigerics?
So spigerics is to separate and recombine.
And so, an herbal alchemy and spigerics use everything in alchemy, everything comes from three principles.
The mercury, the sulfur, and the salt. Mercury representing the spirit, the sulfur representing the soul, or the essential oils of the plant, an herbal alchemy, and then the salt is the body.
So, by separating these principles and then through transmutation, you purify them.
So, there’s pure form, and then you recombine them.
And in doing that, you create the purest form of that plant, that medicine that you can.
And this is done in conjunction with depending on which herb you’re using, starting your masterations on a certain planetary data, certain planetary hour, and with a certain intention is what we found works the best.
And then you end it, obviously, on the same, on a planetary data harvest those energies that are out, and then complete it in a different ritual type of way.
Everyone has their own different thing they do.
And that’s the basis of it.
It’s so, it’s so good.
I just was going to add that how we actually got into it was originally we made, like we said, with the canvas plant.
And so we started with the topicals.
I mean, when we went to go to the oils, we were seeing what was out there, and we just didn’t like any of it, like any of it worked.
We tried all these, oh, sorry to interrupt you, but we switched, because in Florida we were using like high THC.
When I moved out here, I quickly found that the high THC was not really helping my back pain.
It was creating inflammation actually, and it does not, for me personally, it was not helping my meditation.
I found that it was not giving me the mental benefits I thought it was doing.
And so that’s how we found this lower THC canvas plant that we now use.
And then when we came across this generic, there was actually another local guy who had it in the shop, and we were just blown away by how incredible it was.
And I don’t think at that time we understood really the depth of what Spedgerix was.
We wanted to make stuff that really helped people.
And so we were drawn to it because it actually worked and actually helped people.
And so, you know, I think now I mean, it’s funny to say what I mean to now, because a couple years ago, I probably would have never even…
It was not, I would not say a spiritual person.
So, as someone who understands what it’s like to be skeptical, I would say, is very fascinating to me to see, like, and watch with, you know, I do my best to be non-biased.
How, at least in my experience, in my opinion, how intention, which is unsangible, or planets which are unsangible, seemingly great.
I mean, with obviously some other physical things of this Spedgerix process, I could create a really out as well.
Exactly.
Yeah, to me it’s so exciting to think about this kind of frontier of knowledge and where our skepticism through experience might turn into understanding.
And I’ve had that kind of experience not only with urban medicine from a relatively young age, but also more recently with the biodynamic approach to agriculture and land stewardship.
And I’ve had personal experiences there where it’s like, yeah, I can’t explain this, but something happened, I’m going to try that again.
And it’s interesting to me too that the alchemical origins of what we now call modern chemistry, or even biochemistry and biopharmacology, you know, that is the pharmaceutical industry.
And so a lot of these processes, you know, this isn’t just, you know, some weird 15th century thing with candlelight, you know, there are many multi-billion dollar multinational companies using these kinds of processes to isolate and sometimes amplify certain attributes of different medicinal plants from around the world.
And that has obviously turned into a huge industry and in many ways has been causing a whole lot of harm and damage in the world in the last several decades in particular.
There’s been a lot of good as well.
So, you know, just connecting some of these dots that these processes are things we as humans have been learning and developing for many, many centuries and possibly millennia.
And different cultural traditions have different ways of combining and recombining and changing and transforming and transmuting substances to help make medicine, right?
Yeah.
And Spagiers was the way to make medicine back at a long time ago, you know, and it got lost and a lot of it had to do with the weird energetic side of it, you know.
And then it was passed down from different alchemists to these different herbal labs and now it is becoming more known, which is, I think, amazing.
And there’s a big, a big Spagieric lab in Germany that does, they’re like a, like we, like one of the labs you’ve mentioned, like a wealthy lab that does it all, you know, as top shelf as they can, you know, for real deal, like laboratory, top shelf, kind of laboratory, like a pharmaceutical laboratory.
And they make a ton of Spagieric, everything they make, and it’s good medicine.
Yeah. Is, you know, is Bach flower remedies with that count as Spagieric?
So, is that a lot of…
Because it’s only a pathic, which…
A lot of essences and essences and essential oils, correct?
Essences for sure, I’m not even sure whether to use any oil.
So, I don’t know anyone that makes a Spagieric essence personally, but it would be really easy to do, so I’m sure they do.
So, sample settings makes a lot of amazing essences, but they don’t, they don’t do the end process.
They’ve started doing it with some other stuff that I make for them.
Yeah. So, sustainable settings, some of you have heard that name before.
It’s a wonderful biodynamic farm just outside of Carbondale here in Colorado.
And Brook and Rose Levan founded it 20 plus years ago.
And Brook’s actually been a guest on the podcast fairly early on, and so has Stephanie Seisen, who grows a whole bunch of herbal medicines out on that farm.
And so, yeah, it’s good to give them a shout out.
You guys are getting some of the biodynamic hemp grown there along with other products.
And some herbs.
Yeah, it resources as much as we can.
As much as we can, we get from…
And you do, and I’ll explain later, or whenever you want me to, the kind of breakdown associated process, when you use the biodynamic stuff, you see a huge difference.
Yeah, break it down to this. I’d love to hear that.
Yeah.
Okay, so, you know, the traditional traditional, you will take your plant, you’re going to separate the sulfur, the sensual oils out of your plant.
And then you will do a fermentation to create the alcohol of the plant.
So, you have the mercury, the spirit, the sulfur, the sensual oils of the sulfur.
And then, for the salt to purify the body of the plant, you’ll burn the plant down all the way to a white ash.
And then from that ash, you will mix it with the distilled water, pull it through a filter, a certain number of times, usually in threes.
And then, you will evaporate that water to create, it will be crystallized, a bunch of mineral salts.
And so, the alcohol, and a lot of people are kind of weird about alcohol.
Alcohol is the quintessential of a herbal alchemy. It’s the best carrier of the spirit of the plant.
And so, it doesn’t matter what plant the alcohol is from.
And I guess this could be my opinion also, but, and a lot of others would gears this opinion.
So, like what we tend to do is we’ll take a botanemic alcohol possible, do a maceration.
We like to do…
What’s maceration?
So, when we soak our herbs in the alcohol to extract the medicinal properties.
A lot of people, we do…
Soxilic extraction is awesome.
And soxilic extraction is a way to make a herbal tincture relatively quick and uses heat.
And we found, we like to do it the old school long way, to soak all the herbs for a certain amount of days.
What’s the quick way called?
Soxilic extraction would be…
How do you spell that?
S-O-X-H-L-E-T.
And so, it’s the toxic extraction.
Essentially, you’ll boil your solvent on the bottom and then have a chamber that has your plant matter,
or if I’ve got a matter, whatever you’re using.
And then, as the solvent, the ethanol will boil.
It’ll go up, condense, and the condenser then fall back through and circulate.
And that creates a…
You can make tinctures in three hours to twelve hours.
And then, it’s a really cool process.
But we found a lot of herbs are heat sensitive.
And so, we found just doing it the longer way.
So, after that, we’ll strain off all the plant matter.
I will…
Then, if we want to concentrate on more, we’ll use a machine to concentrate that down.
And then, you take the plant matter.
I get a good burn in a ceremony away, down to that ash, and then do the rest of the process.
And then, we can modem in another ceremony away.
And so, the plant gets released back into the universe.
And you’re left with the most pure essence, synergy of that plant,
opposed to western medicine focuses on single chemical compounds, you know, like TBD or THC.
And so, and a lot of people would make regular alcohol tinctures, which work great.
But you stop at that point and that’s that by doing the intentional way
and getting all the salts out, recombining everything,
you capture the full essence and synergy of the plant.
And it’s a much, much higher energetic medicine.
Really beautiful description, thank you.
And when you’re doing it, when you say ceremonial, what does that, what does that mean?
So, we do, did you want to…
Sure.
You know, a lot of times, I mean, it can be a variety of things that also depends…
It depends on, like, if Kyler is alone, or if it’s me and Kyler,
or sometimes there actually happens to be more people.
That’s actually, sometimes even more beautiful, especially.
So, Kyler explains, but you’re against such a beautiful, detailed way.
I think of it in my brain sometimes just very simply of like it sits in the alcohol, goes
to the burning, you filter that ash with water, you have mineral salts in the mineral salts
go back in that original texture.
So a lot of times when you’re at that process where you’ve got the mineral salts and you’ve
got like you said what would in theory just be the alcohol texture and you’re going
to put the mineral salts back in we’ve done some like meditations and then all you know
depending on who’s there like I said you know take in turns to put the salts back in with
intention usually with specific intentions, loving intentions, things like that.
So I personally feel like they can vary but we usually have it focused around love because
I think you can’t do it enough so yeah yeah beautiful well and I am excited to get
a peek at some of the equipment and of course products let me just give a quick shout out
that to say to folks if you want to check out Vera Herbles products and learn a bit
more you can go to www.varaherbles.com and on Facebook it’s Vera Herbles LLC on Instagram
it’s Vera Herbles and we’ll have these links in the show notes and I of course want to
remind our audience this is the Writers Community Podcast I’m your host Aaron Perry and we’re
visiting with Tyler Bell and Nicole Wallace here at Vera Herbles in Carmandale Colorado
and I want to give a quick shout out to our several sponsors who make this podcast series
possible and that includes Earth Coast productions the Lidge Family Foundation, Alpine Botanicals,
Purium, Earth Hero, Vera Herbles, Growing Spaces, Soil Works, Earthwater Press, 1% for the
planet, Dr. Bronners and Waylay Waters and of course a huge shout out to the individuals
in the Writers Community who have joined our monthly giving program as some of you already
know if you join at certain levels you’ll get monthly shipments of the Waylay Waters
hemp infused aromatherapy soaking salts and we’re starting to play with Waylay using
some of the hemp essence that Vera creates and so it’s a really fun collaboration to
be playing with that right now too. I also want to mention that in our partnership when
you go to Vera Herbles to do some holiday shopping or hemp hint you can get a 10% discount
using the code Y on Earth and this is another one of our beautiful regenerative win-win economic
relationships where a portion of the sale will be donated back to the Y on Earth community
for our community mobilization work for health, well-being, regeneration, stewardship
and sustainability. So great opportunity to check out a bunch of wonderful products for
yourself, your self, your family, your friends, for the holidays and we’ll show you the
products toward the end and before we get a tour of the equipment I just want to ask
you got a very special shirt on there under that dapper jacket Tyler and there’s some special
geometry on that, can you tell us a bit about that?
So this is a Metatron cube, it is very special to me and it is all over this lab and it’s
a very powerful energy tool that can be used for, it really can aid in as a person is
raising their frequency along with these other ones. It contains the platonic solids,
you will also be able to find this in there, and the cedar life in there and yeah it
also contains the mercurative, which is a very powerful tool for meditation for manifestation
for healing, energetic healing and I highly recommend researching it indeed. Yeah it’s been
for me personally a passion, an interest for a few decades now and I’ve been struck that
we humans have developed so much knowledge and understanding the realm of sacred geometry
over millennia but that at the same time in this culture right now there are a whole
lot of us living in real you know darkness and ignorance of that knowledge and information
and there are historical reasons for that that we can look at and understand but what brings
me joy and enthusiasm is knowing that more and more of us are reconnecting with this reality
in this knowledge and able to activate more of this love impulse into our relationships
and communities as a result and it’s a really beautiful thing and it’s something we humans
have been doing for a long time. It’s awesome. It’s awesome. Yeah, really awesome. He didn’t even
mention his parodome echo that we’re offering. We’re going to go on the parodome and
share. Let’s talk about that. I know what I know how this feels to me and I feel like
this parodome opens up your heart so that you can receive the universe with grace and
ease and we have been actually filtering all ours the Jared Mineral solution through
parodome so that whether anyone knows or not their heart energy center is being opened
up when they take any of our things and yeah, it’s awesome. Thank you. I actually got
some air in Perry. I actually have one on two. Yes, I love wearing this stone and this
parodome I’ve been learning about. It’s one of two stones that we understand gems to
come from way deep in the earth, the other being diamonds. It’s also a stone that can come
to us from outer space. It’s interesting. It can come from way deep within and above
there which some of you who maybe have heard of the hermetic axiom of azabah so below
might say, huh? Interesting. Indeed, it’s also affiliated with Archangel Raphael who has
a relationship with the hermetic energy and entity out there. It’s a psilosatius, if
that’s the right way to say it, gem has silica and it also has iron and magnesium and
oxygen. At the molecular level, the structure has tetrahedra which relates to the platonic
solid. The heart chakra is right and that’s geometry and information that goes way back
in time in both the eastern and western cultures and it’s the color green. It also relates
very closely to this phenomenal miracle that happens here on earth which is a continuous
streaming of light energy information in some would say love from the sun to the planet.
173,000 terawatts of energy continuously streaming onto our planet and about 1% of that is converted
into food and the stuff of life here by plants in this green frequency or strangely
they’re actually absorbing the red and blue and radiating back the green. So it goes
way back about a thousand years ago that German mystic Hildegart fund being in spoke of
this green healing energy, very detox that she experienced and it seems to me there’s
a connection in an opportunity as we’re working more with the plants to also work with
certain stones and elementals in organic elements that stand here on the planet that can
help with all of this work of raising the love frequency and activating the heart even further.
And it’s a lot of fun. And I’ll share that it’s I feel a little vulnerable you know talking
about these kinds of things on camera because you know I know we’re reaching a lot of different
folks and that you know some of us might feel very comfortable with this kind of conversation
for others it might be really challenging and you know it’s also it’s interesting for me
to have a mixed heritage of indigenous Germanic and indigenous Celtic and indigenous Mohawk
Indian in my background to where you know when we’re thinking in terms of like cultural
sensitivities it’s kind of okay to talk about the feathers and the stones and the water spirits
and the plants but suddenly when we’re in the kind of western rational discursive context it’s like
well wait a minute you’re maybe undermining your credibility and it’s like oh golly which
and so yeah I think another one of the great challenges and opportunities we sit with right now
in this culture is how to approach and consider integrating the both and perception of reality
and where perhaps we’re finding those no way that can’t be true inside ourselves that might be an
opportunity to sit with that question just a little further are you certain it’s not true
and if you’re certain how can you be certain it’s not true and in there you’ll find some of the
deepest philosophical debates that have been happening in the west including Kant and others
I assure you there has been a lot of thought applied to that question and we might
ourselves cultivate a bit of humility in the face of these great epistemological inquiries
and heck if we lighten up a little and have a little fun we might even smile and have a higher
quality of life as a result so what a time to be alive huh oh it’s amazing fantastic
that was a little soapbox coming from my insecurity around talking about something
we can make it weirder and take that light off of you
I love it absolutely what do you think should we look at some equipment sure that’s
I’m good so I didn’t I was I think I asked you before but is veritas and veritas
veritas yeah veritas veritas right to make notes mountain I’m not lying so because that’s
what we got the word bear from yeah so my understanding is okay this word veritas veritas the
Latin means truth my understanding is hildard funbingen who worked with stones and plants
and was a devout christian nun Catholic nun who ran more than one convince she was an incredible force
in her time she coined this term veritas which is her own twist or variation on the very
toss meaning truth but this now means the truth of the green healing energy that she was having
direct mystical experience with this she wrote about so they’re not the same words but they’re
related I see thank you all the way back around yeah and this that’s this uh stone right here
it seems this stone contains that green healing energy yeah that she speaks of that’s really
asked the Egyptians were quite into this stone as well a fair bit was harvested on an island in
the red sea between Egypt and the Saudi Arabia the Arabian Peninsula and now that island is called
the Isle of Saint John which some of you out there may say oh wait a minute that rings about
and so yeah some of the history is quite interesting and we source and work with some of the
perido stone from Saudi Arabia area as well as from a a patchy reservation community and tribal
nation down in Arizona so there are different spots around the planet where this can be found
and uh yeah it’s interesting looking at some of the history goes way back at least into the
Egyptian times yeah so the stuff show the stuff so we’ll uh go over this way first right cool
so um this is our awesome press whenever we we see big into edibles um so we just make a lot of
edibles that um uh that’ll take in the beginning for my back pain um but when we moved out here we
wanted to our original plan was to um get into the more THC type of things and we were making these
dehydrated fruit um bites with with cannabis in them um we don’t like the a lot a lot of the
extracts people use butane and different um solid and stuff we did not like to eat so we wanted
to do it with this machine so essentially with this machine we would um and what we still do is
we’ll take the plant um make a hash with it um by freezing it or with uh ice water and then we’ll
take the hash pack that into um a 72 micron filter bag and then just press it with heat and
pressure with this machine and create an incredibly um high grade concentrate of of cannabis
whatever type you like um and so then that can put strain to food and that’s what we were doing
is putting it into edibles um and we stopped doing the edibles um but now we put this into all of
our sabs and we make some liquids with it um so this is a way to make a high grade extract with no
no solvent um wonderful for eating wonderful medicine um and we actually with us the jerks we
to introduce traditional spe jerks you’re going to be using alcohol um they didn’t have this way
back in the day so we started actually we still um we’ll make this extract and we’ll spend it in
MCT oil and then we’ll still burn the the plant down um get the mineral salts and and reach this
as back to the extract um preserving more of the essence and trying to create a higher energetic um
medicine um uh this is the softest extract that i was talking about this is a small softest extractor
can you see it in the cool um yeah so this is a way to you put your plant material in here
um this will have your your your alcohol or ethanol and this is a condenser that uh ice water
cold flu will be flowing through and so as your ethanol evaporates and it pulls up through here
to recondense and fall back through your uh your material um and that’ll cycle back and forth and
create a really uh uh the things are fast but i kind of like the slow method
personally um but it’s really cool um and yeah you’ve made the kind of see over here but we
we have these big pots this is where we’ll um uh make big batches of different herbs um so
as many medicinal herbs and get from sustainable settings and we sell everything on a different
amount of days um um um yeah that’s really that um and then i’ll take it from there we will do all
of our allowance about here but we’ll we’ll filter that next run it through a filter a bunch of
uptimes and then this is our giant roto evaporator um and then we’ll bring that product that’s
filtered um and this will allow us to concentrate herbal tinctures um or with the the hemp we
usually will um for just a pure hemp um extract will evaporate off all the alcohol so this
machine is meant for or if um um to evaporate organic solvents so no matter what you are trying
to extract from your plants you have your um organic solvent in here and this machine will evaporate
it’ll recompense and you can recollect it to to use it again um or to concentrate your
when you make a concentrated tincture you can evaporate off um observe percentage of the alcohol
that you would like to concentrate that that down um this is a big black box um this is the machine
that we make hash with but that’s not it and you’ll notice we have the i don’t know if you got
we keep the shriansha um in our home and our office areas at all times um and the other ones
you saw and if you don’t know anything about the thicker geometries even if you just think they look
cool i recommend putting them all over your life and uh you’ll see some amazing results
and the burning if you don’t do it here yeah we don’t have the burning here but we
kind of break it down a bit i forgot i had not bring it over there but this is um something
not just made from a small batch um so this will be the the minerals the the white ash that
then will be mixed with distilled water uh tomorrow um and we will actually use the peridog
i told you to filter that through and then that is where all the minerals also be pulled out of
um and then reintroduced into the the tincture usually right here
that’s that for Rebecca beautiful um before we go to the front of the quals or anything you’d
like to add or to uh yeah i guess for me you know i’m not as involved with the actual extracting um
one thing that i think is really awesome about the rock and brass and i don’t think tell
i’re talking about a lot but um it’s just that no solvents ever touch it so alcohol being a solvent
not necessarily a bad thing uh like tell i said it’s the quintessential element and alchemy um but
all right to me it’s just so fascinating that you can use just heat and pressure it’s actually a more
advanced technology but it’s based off a hair straightener uh and it just squeezes out the medicinal
properties without any harsh chemical ever having to touch it so you know it’s where we started but i
also um it’s like you can see with how quickly tell her explain the processes are actually
they seem complex when we’re talking about them but they’re actually quite simple um and yeah
yeah the the the reason that um the the reason that we find apart from the energetic side wise
which is not really known in the western or it well it it’s not it’s not the best business model
it’s um um just because it it is a long slow process and there’s no reason to do that process
unless you’re into the energetic side you know and so no one really it takes weeks to make a
tincture you know and to and to do your whole thing so um both of the processes are are not
so mainstream but we really feel that they really keep the integrity of the herbs and the the
plants um and their highest um you know getting into more the ham side and going back to the
rosters maybe if we didn’t talk about it all earlier um it’s just because no solvent touches
that it never degrades so um yeah like you said they’re not they’re not very mainstream but uh
we really strive to uphold really just making stuff that actually works and not just cell
it doesn’t the so the rosin with um making the rosin does not pull out any chlorophils
or or lipids and and waxes and stuff so it um it is a very
pure um in product um and she uh she uses that the most um and then this for gears which a lot
of people think is very undesirable um well I guess you can you could distill um remove all all
those unwanted properties chlorophyll and stuff but um but you know the traditional for gears is
going to be um you know pretty dark um and a lot of people think it’s not pure then I always
ask people do you remove the chlorophyll and all the wax and waxes and stuff from your salad
no yeah and so um so I think this is extra work that we do but then all these other places
you still like to work to get all that stuff out and um and uh I think I think there’s something about
having that whole all of it in there yeah you know the whole host of it uh all of the plant has
offered yeah yeah there is this sort of fetish in the culture around clear and I remember even
what was it like 20 years ago when these diets so does were clear and everyone thought
oh they must be even better for you and it’s like well wait a minute what is so yeah I mean
these plants have uh by their very nature you know the gift of of creator of the divine uh these
incredible compounds and substances in them right and into your point why pull this to that out yeah
yeah and I guess we should do a salad to share pressure um
that’s actually what we have a machine from and I love it unconditionally
it’s actually really cool also when we just kind of discovered this recently um so we really
focus on sustainability so we have a couple um package packaging for our products that’s
compostable and we use recycled stuff whenever we can and glass whenever we can and
locally whenever you can and you can actually so uh first the hemp goes through this black box
and the hash um it collects at the bottom and then it goes through the raven uh press so
actually you can do the raven and then the plant matter that went through the sister actually can
then be put through this material process so it’s almost like upcycling the plant matter
which is pretty cool that’s really cool yeah well what do you say we show some finished products
and we can uh help folks think about their uh their shopping and uh think about holiday gifts
and all that kind of stuff you know so here we are now in the front of the shop and this is where
Decolon Tyler will receive uh friends and clients and customers who are local um and we get to see
the display here of the products and uh I’m gonna jump out of camera so that you guys can focus
on what you have to share there of course uh this is all available online so that’s the good news
for the rest of us who aren’t local so I’ll start with what we talked about um a bit so um we
have just a few different saves here um just different strings for different needs um let me
say that it’s also the raven press so it’s all the less no harsh chemicals ever touch it um
we infuse actually we’ve got two different strengths of an athletic sub and they are to infuse
with some local um wildcrafted arnica um as well as hopefully i think we’re gonna infuse it with
st. John’s work and what’s that there and come free in our uh the whole oil uh and then
we’ve got our tinctures here so where you guys there’s a couple different strengths uh we’ve got
this figurics three different strengths uh 500 milligrams those and and that is this cvd content
we do not put our emphasis on cvd um but these are our hand products in the bottom here um
uh but all of our hand products are lab tested so that is the amount that you see on the front
there um and then we have a raven uh plus is what we call it because we do that we put the
mineral salts back in which is a part of this figuric process um with our raven extracts um and
again those are completely solid lengths um and you also all of the things that all of our products
are third party lab tested which is important if you’re buying hand products but it’s monstrous
someone else um yeah cool so i wanted to add one little thing really quick this is a jig so i
just learned this recently um something that i did not read in any sugeric book that i just learned
from a very very um intelligent man um named Kevin um was to extract your ball of house salts um
first this is for the sugeric um folks out there i thought this all about it but um and if you
just a burn the plant you are um you’re losing all the ball of tile salts so before you do your
maturation is better you can extract the ball of tile salts save those um um and then you get
the most most out of your process all right then you said so yeah those teachers we make um
we make teas um we all love teas we teach from meditation all this um letting things go
that i just says well all of you guys read it um yeah we read it out loud because it was great news
all right well good names oh yeah let it go it just they also had a funny little this one says let
that shit go what’s the first one i love it um well as much yeah um you know we got focus
no no Spanish so what does that mean um well it’s a little uh it’s it’s an incorrectly spelled
version that is um supposed to be kind of joke um but only one person’s ever say anything meaning
good night yeah yeah this one i just want to help you fall asleep um the the lab goes at the end
of the day whenever you are just kind of fed up um you let it go we drink out i don’t know in the
most um and i like to put we make a damn good tincture um it’s actually called a damn good tincture
but um this has botanamic cally poppy wild lettuce and hemp um sugeric and so i’ve been putting
all bio dynamic in that one yeah and um and i harvested uh the medicinal herbs um both the
uh cally poppy and wild lettuce from stethany at same old settings yeah she has to harvest
her herbs so you can make that connection with them which is really sweet um yeah and then the
focus is in mint for meditation it doesn’t it says i’m see growing back so those are weird people out
at the beginning but um that’s for meditation then your uh rise and shine to help you get up in the
morning and put a big smile on your face um and then detox um made with a bunch of different good
things to help you just push out um then here these are the amazing willay waters products made by
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haven’t talked too much evolved out to me this is a guy who makes pyjamas named Warren and um he’s
awesome so um you know i would credit what he does to us kind of finding pyjamas and um and wanting to
pursue making ourselves so thank you Warren um mushrooms we are a huge mushroom people um
these aren’t hassle aside but um you can’t tell how they get these are uh different
medicinal mushrooms that um we have seen just magic um come from them um all these products also
they’re they’re they’re not they’re awesome by themselves but in combination with the
energetic side of things all thicknesses things that people come here and they want to body
some mushrooms for um these detox teas um every single time these these are manifestations of
what’s going on inside of us so a true illicit approach um and it is okay we all we hit messages
from our body um in all different shapes and forms and it’s an amazing thing it’s um and so when
we get those there’s something that we need to change energetically these these are the physical
side so these products we’ve seen some amazing uh space of these these mushrooms that i can get a
troll for saying um um because it goes because it gets modern medicine um but we’ve seen them
share things and do amazing stuff consult your doctor first um but when you combine that with um
with gratitude and with breathing and with lifestyle changes um 91% of our thinking is subconscious
so even today i’m saying oh it’s amazing i feel great this is awesome if my subconscious has been
programmed for 20 years to be ungrateful and angry and not happy and chasing all these materials
that was firing off and so that’s what’s being traded morality so when you go inside and you
reprogram those ways of thinking um that have caused these different businesses and you combine
with this it is a crazy success rate um obviously i work every single time i’ll be honest with you
um see how’s all rainbow but um but yeah so mushrooms are incredible um um and we we they’re
you know one in one extract so they’re potter form but then um we get them encapsulated
they’re vegan they’re also lab tested um fun guy it’s or everything they grow in so um that’s
always a good thing and then there also not grown in any greens or rice or fillers which is
sometimes you’ll see that in the industry so they’re grown all the way to the floating body uh
so there’s mushrooms in there uh and that’s an important uh thing well um so no matter what your
um ailment is it’s worth looking into to mushrooms and that could be a whole another podcast
um we talk for weeks about but um uh good idea actually we should probably do that in the near future
yeah yeah um you know research them um look into them they’re um the work taking it and just
you want to make sure that your mushrooms that you’re gonna buy wherever you buy them um don’t have
grains and and all their fillers in there um and the other ingredients and you don’t
any add starches um so with your mushrooms that have the uh that uh the the floating body um
one out of your starches your starches and there was something else I was just
we didn’t talk a lot of our other herbal tinctures but um we do um like we mentioned the hemp
but we also do specific with like he mentioned the damn good tincture but we have a couple others
and um really awesome rain and your traffic tincture coming out um student as well so um that’s sort of
where we get the most excited I think right now yeah and we love doing for jerseys so if anyone
wants to talk about how to make for jerseys wants to call me you can and um we love uh we were
with a lot of other farms and different farmers who have us um creates for jerseys and their herbs
and their uh they’re fun guys so um you guys are interested call me and talk about for jerseys
absolutely beautiful so thank you guys so much and to close out I’m going to I’m going to just say
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have this time with you and thank you so much for sharing all this information with us and giving
us a tour of your lab and uh it’s a lot of fun talking to you guys yeah thank you thank you
thanks for being on the planet you know what you’re doing plunger we’re all in this together it turns out
you’re all right all right you just love each other
indeed a lot hug everybody oh we love it cool great thanks guys and thanks Hunter for
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